Minimum Wage

[Stavros]

Today in Newcastle were loads of people in Red Jackets handing out leaflets about the minimum wage and a number to call about it. well personally as a small shop owner with 4 staff I don't think there should be one. If I paid each worke less I could get another person in making it 5 people and getting 1 more person on the dole. When I left school there was no such thing as the minimum wage and it worked ok then. Im sick of the moaners

[heaton1979]

Stavros, Do you really believe that grown adults on Tyneside can honestly live on less than £5.73 an hour?????

Really---we have to give people an incentive to work, an incentive to believe in themselves and and incentive to give poeple a feeling of worth! i dont belive anyone should be paid less than £7 an hour. Paying this amount might take a small amount of the fat cats pocket but will give the employee a greater sense of worth and in return thr employer might see more productivity. Let me tell you if someone give me £3 an hour that would mean my life would be worth £504 (for 24 hours * 7) are we worth that.

There has to be some balance and a minimum wage must be in force for the benefit of the whole economy. people get paid more people spend more. im sick of these business owners who get above their pedestal.

[CHeezer]

Minmum wage is nowt, if you can't sustain the business with out paying fair (not high) wages then wrap the business up.

Paying some one min wage is like saying i don't respect you and if i could pay you less i would.

[paul29uk]

Hi All,

Just read a few of your posts and I can see your all of your point of views (allbeit a little uneducated).

1) According to the ACCA since the latest rise in the minimum wage 23% of small/medium sized businesses have halted additional recruitment,their new staff are just replacements.
2) The increases of the minimum wage are today having more impact on business profitablility.
3)Only 43% of these businesses said they weren't affected.
4)In a free market businesses should be able to pay the market rate.
5)If people don't want to work for the money offered then they will not work and claim unemployment benefit.
6)If this is the case then the market will enforce the employers to increase the hourly rate due to market forces.
7)There was no minimum wage in force in the early 1990's and it worked fine.
8) In todays age with employment falling we need to, in my opinion get rid of the minimum wage.

Paul R

[Stavros]

Exactly my sentiments Paul, just didnt put the facts together as well as you.
:)

[SHIFTA]

Fact most people ahve an intrinsic self worth and this motivates them to get on and work in any job when the sh*t hits the fan and they get made redundant. I wonder if recruitment was slashed the previous year when the NMW wage rise occured, the credit crunch is of course down to the NMW. Your also forgetting about the wage councils which were inplace for many low paid industries most businesses stuck to the guidnece the therefore influencing those who otherwise wouldn't as in order to keep there staff the market forces that.

I ask you to consider this in his last year of work the board paid my boss an increase in basic of 281,000 the equivanent 42 quid for everyone in the company or if you just divide it between those on NMW £122.17 per year or 7p per hour.

I rest my case.

[Stavros]

Well the NMW and the circumstance people are in is far better than it was 30 years ago as far as equality is going----what do you socialists want next ? Something called Kibbutz Newcastle? That be good that means everyone will earn the same and then there will be no lazy b*****rds saying and whining "he gets more than me " So what you get what you get!

[RosieJones]

As long as everyone gets a fair deal thats all most people want. You can't expect people to work for minimum wage though - it's no more than slavery.

[SHIFTA]

You just can't expect that somebody will excel at their role for you if you make them feel worthless.

I mean what can you do if you take home 160 a week when rent i at least 60 council tax 30 per week gas and leky 10 each a week.

shame on you.

[Withnail_And_I]

£160 a week? I'm sorry that sounds dreadful.

[Lee123]

Unfotunately most oif teh jobs i have been going for interviews recently have all been minimum wage it seems that the only way bosses can make a profit these days is to pay as little as possible.

Its all because the folks they have to pay for as because of the law, business expenses, rates, insurance, licences legal stuff, public notices, accountants etc charge an enourmous amount my mate has a solicitor who does around 4 hours work a year and with VAT charges nearly 600 quid. He can never understand why his accountant charges around 12% of his gross profit every year wherever he has had a good one or not. He only found out last year cause it went down??????????????

The rich get rich while the poor get what they're given

[Lee M]

Sorry folks but you have got to get it into those heads of yours that until we start keeping the good folks in the northeast you know the leaders the innovators those who will start a business and not give up till its succesful then we are not going to get a good wage up here.

It is a fact that we have a higher number of people who work for the pubic service up here so tend to be a bit lazy.

[Jamie]

people are being gibing the minimum wage these days due to more people out of work and taking what they can get..so i reckon some employers are now making a mint. Minimum wage goes up again soon though thank god.

[shaun22]

Life is what we make of it. If we don't like our circumstances we should change them.

Einstein said words along the lines of "Stupidity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results".

I have heard someone else say, "Keep doing what you are doing and you'll keep getting what you're getting". So change yourself, however long it takes, but just do it, that's the main thing.

Develop your skills and qualifications so you don't have to look at minimum wage jobs. I realise this isn't always easy, but we all must start somewhere. I am only just pulling myself out of the pile of poop that I got myself into when I was younger. Still not perfect now either, but not as irresponsible as I used to be and finished my Engineering qualifications.

[shaun22]

Some people will listen to this, others won't bother, but if you do it will begin changing your life within an hour or less and if you have no job, then there is no better time to start listening to and applying the principles now.

A man named Earl Nightingale, who has largely been forgotten in our generation, made a series of self-help tapes for his employees and ended up with one of the most successful and happy workforces in history. It will improve every aspect of your life and if you have an ipod just put it on there or on your computer and listen to it as much as you can.

Start with "The Strangest Secret". Then go to "Direct Line". They can both be downloaded at The Pirate Bay (www.thepiratebay.org"). He has a deep rich voice and it sinks in. I kid you not, if you want to change your circumstances, you must first change your attitude and yourself. It can't do you any harm trying.

[shaun22]

Anyone can become rich. To become mega rich, like The Rothschilds and Rockefellers, you would likely have to be born into such elitist families, or have Royalty in your blood, aristocracy or become part of and excel in some sort of secret society, such as Skull & Bones of Yale University. Saying that, to even attend, you would have to already be rich and a member of an elitist bloodline.

On the other hand, you could promote Darwinism (a religion, not a proven fact) and the Atheistic Agenda and you will find yourself with an abundance of grants and funding to futrther your theories and publish best selling works.

I won't go into all the details of how I came to realise this, but elitism is not a possibility for most of us, but emotional, material, financial and spiritual abundance are all obtainable for every man and woman, especially those living in the Western World. Change your attitude and philosophy and work toward a specific goal with burning desire and an indomitable will. Nothing will be able to stop you :-). Millions, even billions are within reach. Trillions are perhaps out of reach lol. Only a handful of families in banking and land ownership and The Catholic Church enjoy wealth of that status.